Monday, February 27, 2006

Why Do The Following Persons Exist #2?

OK, so this is lazy posting. But I did have fun the first time. And for any non-Australian people who might read QP (one can but dream), I thought an international variation on this theme might be worth teaming with.

So: oxygen depletion, possible reason/function, blah blah.

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Seriously - eww.

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(Not international admittedly, just picking up a glaring omission that was kindly pointed out.)

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Oh I'm sorry - did I include her twice? That was gratuitous of me.


At 27/2/06 12:43 pm, Blogger Splatterbottom said...

Hi Sam

I am sure we agree on many things, but you seem to have omitted a whole class of celebrity boor. Maybe you have not yet plumbed the bowels of the twit-o-sphere to the depths of the politically 'enlightened' celebrity.

People like Sean Penn, Alec Baldwin, Barbra Streisand and George Clooney who think that they must exploit their fame to shove their political views down our throats. We pay politicians to do that, and actors to act.


At 27/2/06 12:58 pm, Blogger Ron said...

SB, From your list of people, I think I can safely assume you're a RWDB!

At 27/2/06 1:25 pm, Blogger Splatterbottom said...

Hi Ron, that is an unsafe assumption. I would have included pro-republican celebrities, but I couldn't think of any. The Governator is now earning his keep as a politician, so he really doesn't count.

At 27/2/06 1:56 pm, Blogger Sam said...

SB's a hard one to call Ron, but from what I've seen he (I think he's male) is fairly even-handed in his criticisms. Plus he doesn't like Howard which is always a plus.

Regarding pro-Republican actors: Harrison Ford, Bruce Willis, Bo Derek (if one can call her an "actress"), Clint Eastwood, Charlton Heston and Ron Silver spring to mind, although at least Eastwood and Heston have actually got into politics/lobbying directly rather than just cheer from the side-lines.

At 27/2/06 2:28 pm, Blogger JahTeh said...

You could have put up a warning for the Monday morning hangover set.

Noami was out shopping with Bill Clinton in Melbourne. Isn't that sweet?

At 27/2/06 2:52 pm, Blogger Ron said...

My apologies if I misread your views, SB. It came from your second para which, to me, is typical RWDB posturing.

I think George Clooney's latest two movies are brilliant. 'Goodnight ...' shows just how a political system can become corrupted by the right or the left.

At 27/2/06 3:06 pm, Blogger Gay Erasmus said...

Noami was out shopping with Bill Clinton in Melbourne. Isn't that sweet?

Oh god, that's scary. Wonder what they could possibly want to buy together?

At 27/2/06 4:02 pm, Blogger Splatterbottom said...

Ron, you didn't misread me all that much, my hatred for Howard is mostly the sense of betrayel one feels when your leader betrays every basic principle of decency.

I feel the same about the left. I learnt the hard way that they are more interested in power than truth, which is a natural coonsequence of postmodernist ideas.

But most decent people of the left and right have similar objectives: free speech, representative government and rule of law. They just disagree about how to implement them.

And Sam, I think it is important to be able to disconnect the artist from their crazy ideas - otherwise I would never get to enjoy Sinead O'Connor.

At 27/2/06 4:17 pm, Blogger Sam said...

Agreed SB - that's the same means by which I'm able to appreciate and enjoy movies that Eastwood directs.

I think it's dangerous, however, to pigeon-hole people into categories - ie, that being actors, therefore they must only act. Politics by definition attracts potential politicians or activists from all areas. And if a performer or artist is genuinely effective in his or her work (eg Eastwood, Penn, even Babs), his/her politics is irrelevant, but that shouldn't deny them the opportunity to speak their political minds like anybody else.

At 27/2/06 5:05 pm, Blogger Splatterbottom said...

Yes Sam,

The problem is when they let their particular cause dominate. Then they move from art to preaching. The greats usually transcend the petty politics to make something that enriches us all.

At 27/2/06 6:41 pm, Blogger JahTeh said...

Botox for Naomi, GA.

At 27/2/06 10:31 pm, Blogger Zoe said...


Thanks for providing the space for me to say that Sam. It's been bottled up ever since "Green Card". I could go on - and on - but I won't.

At 28/2/06 7:09 am, Blogger Ron said...

Surely all art is preaching?

What great novel, classic movie or whatever, doesn't have a message, or in modern terms, an agenda?

At 28/2/06 9:03 am, Blogger Sam said...

Heh - glad I could be of assistance Zoe :P

At 28/2/06 9:19 am, Blogger Splatterbottom said...

Hi Ron: Surely all art is preaching?

This is true, so I had better rephrase.

Is it that when it's great art, it doesn't sound like preaching. You sit mesmerised without really noticing that someone is trying to force their ideas down your throat?

Or is it the ability of a great artist to make you feel whatever point they are trying to make at a deep level, so that you internalise it, and understand it in a way that you previously did not?

Any suggestions?

At 28/2/06 11:47 am, Anonymous Zhasper said...

I'm happy to say that I have no idea who any of those faces are.. unless one of them is Paris Hilton perhaps? If she's not there, she should be..


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